Doesn't the sagaris have built in resists?

I was in a Pub were there was both a Surya and madrugar on the enemy team and didn't go well for my team.

Though I think I was the only one trying to take them out...

I would like to have the siege Mode Back but we need larger maps and restrictions for it

yet ppl always use them.................

Not sayin marauders dont need a buff just sayin never understoood ppls comments on "ppl dont use it if they got it skilled" when u ALWAYS see ppl using it.

and doesnt it make sense tho to NOT bring out a marauder in a pub cuz of the costs?
pre wipe my surya only saw action in corp matches and very very very rare occasions id take it out for a spin in a pub to counter another marauder

why would anyone however bring out marauder tanks regularly in pubs even IF it was given a buff just not worth it anyway ISK wise

I imagine that when there is more than a few million ISK on the line that extra little bit to give you the edge over your opponent will look like a bargain.

Get out of your tank ***** and fight like a man.

I haven't seen anone mention the bonus to racial turrets marauders get...

They might not have a massively improved tqnk but that seems like a huge upgrade to me...

What is the current AV situation? So you want your tank to be god mode? The ones i see that are fitted correctly have no trouble staying alive. I have AV mines , packed AV nades , and level 3 swarm launchers with high level damage mods and all that dont do **** to tanks with modules. They either drive away or kill everyone.

has some one mentioned the innate damage bonus?

Tanks are supposed to be supported by infantry. Tanks shouldn't be able to solo slaughter infantry just like infantry shouldn't be able to solo slaughter tanks (which they really can't, unless they're insanely focused on AV, or the tank driver is a derp)

sagaris is worth the isk for me, tho I wont bust it out in a pubbie for the most part unless sombody pops my gunlogi fit.

The new shield AV weapon that is coming out might make me rethink busting it out in anything besides a corp battle tho.

plasma launcher is hybrid not shield oriented

its been confirmed but like everything else we havent gotten much word on it after initial mention
but marauders really do need siege modules to set it apart from just regular tanks tbh

If tanks get a buff shouldn't it be time for AV centered vehicles, something not as fragile as infantry but more mobile and pack more of a punch along with being easier to hit and losing most of the element of surprise while packing a larger punch

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I'm under the impression that the Surya is a little bit better than the Mad, no?

I can see your point if it's really only 100 more PG and an extra slot I suppose, but it seems to me like even that extra slot and the extra 100 PG could be used to get a pretty decent advantage with the right finagling. I have to admit though, I'm not a tank driver, I'm a dropship pilot, so to me an extra high slot and 100 PG sounds friggin' awesome.

In a high stakes match with two roughly equally skilled teams, would you say a group of Suryas would have an advantage over a group of Mads if the two were to cross paths? Because in my mind, this is where the risk/reward should exist for high end vehicles. To me, it seems like a prototype tank should ALWAYS be a dumb investment for a pub match, and should be more of a tool to squeek out an advantage vs other high-end competitive players. So, I can see tweeking them upwards a tad bit more, but frankly, in your day to day battles a Mad or a Gunn are already practically overkill.

Next time I see a tank in a match, I'm calling in a militia dropship and going on a kamikaze run. I wonder if crashing head on into a tank will destroy it no matter what kind of tank it is.....hmmm....

Spider tanking? I think the extra slots could make for some crazy remote rep pairs or squads

Yeah it's nice to be the same, but having a blaster and railgun, or blaster and missile means you have a little more strategic depth maybe.

Surya only gets extra damage for the blaster.

But mainly because I get more survivability with a sagaris. I can tank an OB in a sagaris, I can't do that in a gunlogi

Surya only gets extra damage for the blaster.

But mainly because I get more survivability with a sagaris. I can tank an OB in a sagaris, I can't do that in a gunlogi

Or maybe missile/explosive tech has kept pace with armor/shield tech? (It clearly has.)

Cheap guerrilla tactics to defeat a numerically/economically superior foe have been around for thousands of years. There's no sense crying that those tactics work in DUST as well.

Or you could just QQ that buying a 35-1 KDR isn't enough. Whichever, really.

Spaceships can get destroyed by missiles too, in case you didn't notice.

You clearly are incapable of understanding the point I'm making, so good luck with your QQ.

You just don't get it, do you? Cheap weapons have been used to thwart expensive armies for a long, long time. Your corpmate is crying that a missile shouldn't be able to destroy a tank, like guerrilla tactics haven't been used for thousands of years.

Yes, your tank has space armor, but these are space missiles. Deal with it.

Is everyone in your corp this dense? I really want to know, because I'm having a hard time understanding how you two aren't getting this.

cost increase (both SP and isk) shouldn't go hand in hand with performance increase.
That would be bad design.

You know, I'd actually be fine with it if they significantly increased the stats of the next tier of tank (black ops ftw ^.^)

but I hope the new tanks and mods will come out soon!